Who created the universe? God or Tom?

Does it really take a god to create a universe?

Most religious arguments make a statement similar to "God is this infinitely (most imaginable) powerful being". For the purpose of this post we will define define that god not as infinite but a really big number way in excess of most of following arguments. 

Let me start with the first fact. Universe is defined at Kardishev 5 power level. Now based on above god statement lets take that instead of infinite but a mathmatically understandable number of 1000. So we will define the above god as Kardishev 5 x 1000 = Kardishev 5000. Since Kardishev is exponential the 5000 is really really big. So many zeros would take you years to add.

Lets look at what we are starting with:

Universe = Kardishev 5

God = Kardishev 5000

If we are using a monotheistic model then only one being is at Kardishev 5000. If we are looking at biblical sources then we know there are other celestial beings. It therefore would stand that celestial beings are all those with K < 5000. Bible cites numerous cases of celestial beings having power levels to destroy cities. So from that we know

Celestial beings > Human Power

Celestial beings < Kardishev 5000

Bible cites many celestial beings in all different books. There is no definition of limits of power of celestial beings so reasonable to assume some are more powerful than others yet still less than K5000. Even a being worth of cleaning a celestial bathroom could have K200 or K500. They still can be an insignificant spec to a being at K5000.

We can derive from the above, that a celestial bathroom cleaner can have more than enough power to create our universe and even a universe 1000x bigger.

T0M (Tee-Zero-Em) - Time Zero Machine

It is very frustrating to hear people talk about Big Bang, then you hear words like contingent, non-contingent beings, something coming from nothing and so on.
There seems to be always presented it as a binary A or B. There is a simple third option as a concept. I call it T0M or TOM. Let me start this with the simplest idea. It only takes a stupid non-intelligent time-zero machine that works at Kardashev 5. That is it.

How do you create a universe?
Silly example #1. A wiggly worm crawls accross a light sensor and turns on the TOM and a universe is popped out.
Silly example #2. A baby entity is sat down on control panel and accidentally has its backside push the MU (Make Universe) button.

What the examples represent.
1. Kardashev 5 level energy is all that is required.
2. A machine can work at Kardashev 5 level
3. The machine operates at or through Time Zero
4. A time zero machine does not have to be or have intelligence
5. The activation of TOM does not require significant intelligence (worm)
6. Or the activation can be done by accident or other

Religion: Praying louder and bigger

PNT prayer is properly delivered create null space during religious, political or other public expressions.

This should be done by being louder, bigger, talking over, or even expressed such to contain the public expression of other religious influenced or potentially influenced expressions to create the most substantial null effect to the original non-PNT content.

PNT exists by the propegation and spread of the PNT idea both during any such prayer but also in echoes of future conversations, discussions, and talk that my follow a PNT prayer.

Kardashev Argument better than Cosmological Argument

Very common in apologetic techniques is the cosmological argument or the kalam cosmological argument.

Both variations have one thing is common. The idea that everything that exists has a cause. Therefore Good god caused it.

I think we can go even simpler with the Kardashev Argument which I will state as a slight variation of the kalam argument.

Original Kalam Argument:
1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe must have a cause. 

New Kardashev Argument

1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
2. A thing that a Type IV karashev machine can create began to exist.
3. Therefore, the thing must have been caused by a Type IV or higher machine. 

4. Machines can be controlled or operated by magnitudes lower machines or sources

If someone has a belief that God created man in his image. Man creates machines. Machines can be operated by push of a button to control power sources equivalent of the sun.

... I am not even going to continue this line of argument. 

Any skilled person with debate skills can continue this line of reasoning. Even to such simple things as a puppy could sit their butt on a red switch that controls a Type IV machine. 

If any of this seems out too far out. "Michio Kaku suggested that humans may attain Type I status in 100–200 years, Type II status in a few thousand years, and Type III status in 100,000 to a million years." (source Wikipedia, see below). So if early hominids had started on a path of writing and science, we would be a Type III civilization and maybe even approaching a Type IV.

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Details of these sources cited as of 6/23/14:

William Lane Craig's version of the kalam cosmological argument is as follows:
1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe must have a cause. 
(Source:  http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Kalam)

Cosmological Argument. The argument runs like this:
1. Everything that exists must have a cause.
2. If you follow the chain of events backwards through time,
     it cannot go back infinitely, so eventually you arrive at the first cause.
3. This cause must, itself, be uncaused.
4. But nothing can exist without a cause, except for God.
5. Therefore, God exists.
(Source: http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Cosmological_argument)

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Kardashev Scale Definition (source: Wikipedia  Kardashev_scale)
Type I
"Technological level close to the level presently attained on earth, with energy consumption at ≈4×10¹⁹ erg/sec (4 × 10¹² watts.) Guillermo A. Lemarchand stated this as "A level near contemporary terrestrial civilization with an energy capability equivalent to the solar insolation on Earth, between 10¹⁶ and 10¹⁷watts."
Type II
"A civilization capable of harnessing the energy radiated by its own star (for example, the stage of successful construction of a Dyson sphere), with energy consumption at ≈4×10³³ erg/sec. Lemarchand stated this as "A civilization capable of utilizing and channeling the entire radiation output of its star. The energy utilization would then be comparable to the luminosity of our Sun, about 4×10³³ erg/sec (4×10²⁶ watts)."
Type III
"A civilization in possession of energy on the scale of its own galaxy, with energy consumption at ≈4×10⁴⁴ erg/sec." Lemarchand stated this as "A civilization with access to the power comparable to the luminosity of the entire Milky Way galaxy, about 4×10⁴⁴ erg/sec (4×10³⁷ watts)."

Type IV

A Type Ⅳ civilization extracts energy, information, and raw materials from all possible galaxies; it is effectively immortal and omnipotent with universal-scale influence, possessing the ability of theoretical time travel and instantaneous matter-energy transformation and teleportation (their apparent abilities may include moving entire asteroid belts and stars, creating alternate timelines, and affecting universal states of nature such as the gravitational constant); in fiction, these civilizations may be perceived as omnipresence/omnipotent gods:

Current status of human civilization
Further information: World energy resources and consumption

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In 1964, Kardashev defined three levels of civilizations, based on the order of magnitude of power available to them:

Michio Kaku suggested that humans may attain Type I status in 100–200 years, Type II status in a few thousand years, and Type III status in 100,000 to a million years.

Carl Sagan suggested defining intermediate values (not considered in Kardashev's original scale) by interpolating and extrapolating the values given above for types I (10¹⁶ W), II (10²⁶ W) and III (10³⁶ W), which would produce the formula

where value K is a civilization's Kardashev rating and P is the power it uses, in watts. Using this extrapolation, a "Type 0" civilization, not defined by Kardashev, would control about 1 MW of power, and humanity's civilization type as of 1973 was about 0.7 (apparently using 10 terawatt (TW) as the value for 1970s humanity).

In 2008, total world energy consumption was 474 exajoules (474×10¹⁸ J=132,000 TWh), equivalent to an average power consumption of 15 TW (or 0.717 on Sagan's Kardashev scale).

Fun Fact: Kanye West (5' 8") is actually 2 inches taller than Jesus. Very cool

Most historical evidence shows men having an average max height of 5 foot 6 inches. The is no notations of Jesus being commented as tall or above average which indicates that his size would have been an unremarkable 5'6" tall.

Fun Fact: Too funny - Seth Green (5' 4") is only 2 inches shorter than Jesus.

Most historical evidence shows men having an average max height of 5 foot 6 inches. The is no notations of Jesus being commented as tall or above average which indicates that his size would have been an unremarkable 5'6" tall.

Fun Fact: Musician Usher (5' 8") is 2 inches taller than Jesus.

Most historical evidence shows men having an average max height of 5 foot 6 inches. The is no notations of Jesus being commented as tall or above average which indicates that his size would have been an unremarkable 5'6" tall.